Why you do not need to panic about losing UK TV
Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:02 PM
Whilst presently we do not know what the outcome to the signal changes or affect on dish sizes will be when Astra 2F is released, it is possible to pick up UK TV on a 1 metre dish from a different satellite (if required) - on Intelsat 907.
The key point is if this situation does occur, most will require a change of satellite receiver as in order to receive the channels from this satellite as requires a receiver which allows reception of a very high frequency range that most satellite receivers tuners do not function on.
Satellite dishes would also need realignment to receive these channels, though you will still be able to utilise your existing 1 metre (or larger) dish.
In summary a dish retune & a change of receiver should be enough to guarantee you reception of BBC / ITV.
For those receiving Sky, which is mainly broadcast on Eutelsat 28A, which is presently not changing, it would be possible to link 2 dishes together (for example 2 x 1 metre dishes) one for Sky, one for the UK terrestrials and connect them both through the same receiver. Alternatively a motorised system with a single dish will work (though takes considerably longer to set up & install compared to a fixed dish system).
Presently we are not releasing prices or further information - the reason for this post is more to make people aware, that if we do find ourselves in a position where the signal has a major affect on reception, there is an alternative solution. There are also other solutions with IPTV and streaming, however these do depend on internet speeds & stability for quality reception.
Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:24 PM
Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:16 PM
This is not the same as profiting from rebroadcasting content or charging ongoing subscriptions for this - neither of which we will be doing. If however Torresat or similar do retransmit this signal & then charge a subscription as they do currently, then they will be breaking the law at a higher level than they are doing now.
It could also be argued that if you cannot get the BBC on a reasonable sized dish on Astra 2F, that the BBC is also breaking the EU 'TV without frontiers' directive which does state that we should all be able to receive our UK TV with a satellite dish. This is a complex argument, but either way we technically are within our rights to receive UK free to air TV from a satellite dish.
Edited by graham1, 08 November 2012 - 03:44 PM.
Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:05 PM
Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:24 PM
CBS, Tiny Pop, Men & Movies etc and a fair amount of the other English language FTA channels are still on Eutelsat 28A which is receivable.
However those with Sky subscription will be able to pick up Sky channel 5's, as well as the other 4's & plenty others - so still ways & means to get most channels.
Fact is, if we have a worse case scenario most people will be happy to still be in a position to be able to get BBC News, BBC 1,2,3 & 4 BBC HD, BBC1 HD, Channel 4 & HD & ITV HD, CBBC, Cbeebies all free to air as well as all of the BBC radio - not perfect but it's the highest rated channels people watch & are available without monthly subscription.
When all said & done we may not need to go down this path & current dish sizes or small increases may prove sufficient to pick up 2F, which will hopefully be the case - however my point was, if we find that the 2F signal is impossible to pick up on any size dish, then this is a viable alternative, if not one as convenient as 1N.
Edited by graham1, 08 November 2012 - 07:42 PM.
Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:48 PM
Intelsat 907: BBC HD, BBC1 HD, BBC2, BBC3, BBC4, Cbeebies, CBBC, BBC News, ITV1 HD, Channel 4HD receivable on 1 metre dish.
However other channels you mention are on Eutelsat 28A, which is also receivable with a 1 metre dish - they are just far apart in orbit, so if we find you cannot get 2F reception with a 1 metre, you can either use a single dish to pick up Eutelsat 907 for BBC etc shown above - or have 2 dishes, one for Eutelsat 28A (CBS's, Men & Movies, True Entertainment, Movies, Kids & News: http://www.lyngsat.c...telsat-28A.html (full free to air listings of Eutelsat 28A). Both dishes can be linked together through a single satellite receiver (not a Sky or Freesat receivers)
Eutelsat 28A also has much of Sky;s content, which has alternative ITV's. 4's & 5's (all subscription as with other Sky channels) but not the BBC's .
Edited by graham1, 11 November 2012 - 09:51 PM.
Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:55 PM
Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:18 AM
Bear in mind if you just want the main FTA BBC's, ITV, Channel 4 & the two kids channels CBBC & Cbeebies (again assuming worst case of no reception on 2F) will still be able to receive these channels off a single 1 metre dish (along with BBC radio stations), with the appropriate satellite receiver - it's just we may need to go hunting for another satellite if you want Sky or some of the other FTA channels.
There is also the possibility of having a single dish motorised system, though our engineers have concerns over the long term reliability of these type of systems however higher specification motors may be the answer - under review.
Edited by graham1, 13 November 2012 - 02:13 PM.
Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:44 AM
Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:33 AM
Where problems can occur with the motorised systems is wear on the gears, though the model you mention above is designed for a 1.4 - many motors recommend around a 1 metre (though you can go bigger / the whole hog with actuator set up). The other issue is they can go out of alignment, though depending on the receiver you have, you can give them a 'gentle nudge' from your remote control to put them back on beam.
Being an installation / service based company we have to prioritise in putting in equipment that is easy to operate and reliable as possible - I suspect that if the motorised route is one that proves viable / suitable for some, then perhaps over specifying the motor (like yours for a 1.4), but putting a 1 metre on instead would increase service life and less likely to go out of tune...in theory.
Vic- you are obviously an ethusiast - have you tried to pick up 27.5W on your system yet?
Edited by graham1, 14 November 2012 - 09:55 AM.
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